Comments on: Voices from the Aftermath http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/ Reporting from Asia on conflict, human rights and climate change Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:23:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Cody http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Cody Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:33:22 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-80 Powerful journalism Andrew, thank you so much for risking yourself to bring us the details of the months-long standoff. It's definitely a sad sight to see fighting and death in the streets, and hard to know that this unrest will continue until the underlying issues are resolved, but your stories bring light to why they fight… thanks. FYI, my thoughts a month after the violence in Bangkok: http://www.thrillingheroics.com/real-world-dodging-bullets-revolution-bangkok-violence Powerful journalism Andrew, thank you so much for risking yourself to bring us the details of the months-long standoff. It’s definitely a sad sight to see fighting and death in the streets, and hard to know that this unrest will continue until the underlying issues are resolved, but your stories bring light to why they fight… thanks.

FYI, my thoughts a month after the violence in Bangkok: http://www.thrillingheroics.com/real-world-dodging-bullets-revolution-bangkok-violence

]]> By: USA_MAN http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-72 USA_MAN Sat, 22 May 2010 03:40:57 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-72 Tyrants will persist until crushed by the people. We (America) had to suffer two wars - against the British and the Civil War before we had a viable democracy. France had to suffer from the French Revolution before they could have democracy, the story (sadly) renains the same with an all-too-familiar theme. The tyrants along with their supporters will say and do anything to keep power. I feel so sad for Thailand, and for the Thai people. I have been visiting Thailand for many years now and hope to continue doing so. Any American who visits can see that political corruption and oppression is rife in Thailand today. Is it any wonder that the Thai people have had enough? Tyrants will persist until crushed by the people. We (America) had to suffer two wars – against the British and the Civil War before we had a viable democracy. France had to suffer from the French Revolution before they could have democracy, the story (sadly) renains the same with an all-too-familiar theme. The tyrants along with their supporters will say and do anything to keep power.

I feel so sad for Thailand, and for the Thai people. I have been visiting Thailand for many years now and hope to continue doing so. Any American who visits can see that political corruption and oppression is rife in Thailand today. Is it any wonder that the Thai people have had enough?

]]> By: Josh http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-71 Josh Fri, 21 May 2010 08:41:56 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-71 If you'd like to know whats going on in Thailand, I'd recommend the following articles. The first one is by Prof. Duncan McCargo, a highly respected scholar on Thailand affairs. http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Bangkok+battles+rehearsal+civil/3050637/story.html http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2905056.htm If you’d like to know whats going on in Thailand, I’d recommend the following articles. The first one is by Prof. Duncan McCargo, a highly respected scholar on Thailand affairs.

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Bangkok+battles+rehearsal+civil/3050637/story.html

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2905056.htm

]]> By: food for thought http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-70 food for thought Fri, 21 May 2010 07:51:45 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-70 Lots of self opinionated wanna be heroes tweeting pats on the back to each other and over the top dramatic messages - forgetting all along that this is not their country -a few smart and practical tweets in between but not many and one should remind the likes of Florian that only fools get shot in such situations and what happened makes you like another glory seeking young fool which is how your blogs read – Too many false heroes (CNN has a lot to answer for) and now they are all “experts “ in conflict – leave it with the Thais please – its their problem and let them resolve it – Also noticed amongst the regular tweeters as how many of them turned on the Reds once things got a bit more violent and many became army lovers overnight - Mr. Aviator (did he paint his face blue before he went a wandering) included – seen too many movies that naïve lad… – always remember – an unelected PM ordered the people of his nation to be murdered……..nuff said – however to Richard Barrow = excellent Lots of self opinionated wanna be heroes tweeting pats on the back to each other and over the top dramatic messages – forgetting all along that this is not their country -a few smart and practical tweets in between but not many and one should remind the likes of Florian that only fools get shot in such situations and what happened makes you like another glory seeking young fool which is how your blogs read – Too many false heroes (CNN has a lot to answer for) and now they are all “experts “ in conflict – leave it with the Thais please – its their problem and let them resolve it – Also noticed amongst the regular tweeters as how many of them turned on the Reds once things got a bit more violent and many became army lovers overnight – Mr. Aviator (did he paint his face blue before he went a wandering) included – seen too many movies that naïve lad… – always remember – an unelected PM ordered the people of his nation to be murdered……..nuff said – however to Richard Barrow = excellent

]]> By: Neutral http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-69 Neutral Fri, 21 May 2010 06:31:31 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-69 Why needs to fight when nobody is solving the root of the problem. Be it red or yellow, a democratic nation cannot exist if there are no opposition. Let the disparity persist but in a HEALTHY manner. In fact, I believe that the Thai democratic system has every potential to reach perfection. This goal will NOT be brought about by whether the reds or the government did the right thing. The current political system has done every thing right, except for ONE problem. If they could rid that one single problem, then full democracy should take place without the need for any changes to the existing system. (apart from some minor tweaking) I am referring to the external influence that can shaped the political decision that was argued in parliament. The parliament comprises of the people's elected elements (be it red or yellow or neutral). When an issue is being brought up by the general public, the MP will take them to parliament and fight it out among the members. This kinda fighting is definitely non-fatal as compared to the recent fights between govt forces and the reds. The problem now is such that outside forces (who are not elected by the people) seems to have a hand in the decision making process in parliament. That is the exact problem. There should be no external influence to the parliamentary decision at all cost. In short, the military, the elites and whoever is out there MUST be de-powered in order for the existing political system to run effectively and efficiently. This i believe ... is mission impossible. Why needs to fight when nobody is solving the root of the problem. Be it red or yellow, a democratic nation cannot exist if there are no opposition. Let the disparity persist but in a HEALTHY manner.

In fact, I believe that the Thai democratic system has every potential to reach perfection. This goal will NOT be brought about by whether the reds or the government did the right thing.

The current political system has done every thing right, except for ONE problem. If they could rid that one single problem, then full democracy should take place without the need for any changes to the existing system. (apart from some minor tweaking)

I am referring to the external influence that can shaped the political decision that was argued in parliament. The parliament comprises of the people’s elected elements (be it red or yellow or neutral). When an issue is being brought up by the general public, the MP will take them to parliament and fight it out among the members. This kinda fighting is definitely non-fatal as compared to the recent fights between govt forces and the reds.

The problem now is such that outside forces (who are not elected by the people) seems to have a hand in the decision making process in parliament. That is the exact problem. There should be no external influence to the parliamentary decision at all cost.

In short, the military, the elites and whoever is out there MUST be de-powered in order for the existing political system to run effectively and efficiently. This i believe … is mission impossible.

]]> By: J http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-66 J Fri, 21 May 2010 02:55:58 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-66 2000+ people died under Thaksin's "war on drugs" that allowed corrupt police to be judge,jury and executioner. 2000+ people died under Thaksin’s “war on drugs” that allowed corrupt police to be judge,jury and executioner.

]]> By: Enlightenment http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Enlightenment Thu, 20 May 2010 22:28:33 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-64 I heard you Reds! It is clear that Thai government used excessive forces against unarmed civilians. It is a brutal massacre. We must stop double standard and bring justice to all. Sadly, too many middle-class are snob and ignorant. But ironically, they're the one who being brainwashed by royalist propaganda. Abhisit is a shame to Thailand, a bloody tyrant. I hope he'll be prosecuted soon. The Reds might lose the battle, but they will win the war. And this time, I will fight with you! I heard you Reds! It is clear that Thai government used excessive forces against unarmed civilians. It is a brutal massacre. We must stop double standard and bring justice to all. Sadly, too many middle-class are snob and ignorant. But ironically, they’re the one who being brainwashed by royalist propaganda.

Abhisit is a shame to Thailand, a bloody tyrant. I hope he’ll be prosecuted soon. The Reds might lose the battle, but they will win the war. And this time, I will fight with you!

]]> By: dreams http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-63 dreams Thu, 20 May 2010 21:11:22 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-63 without the richer people, how would the poorer people get employed? I'm never keen on the wealthy thais, but without them - who would hire drivers? maids? security guards? without the big high rises, who would hire construction workers? without all these malls, who would hire shopkeepers??? For those who still want to believe that the protestors were innocent and the soldiers were evil.... The next time someone kicks you out of your home, rob it,and then burn it down... I hope you remember your own words. And so far, we have seen that they have found their 'freedom' and 'democracy' - inside the ATM machines, 7-11, and burning people's properties down..... right? without the richer people, how would the poorer people get employed? I’m never keen on the wealthy thais, but without them – who would hire drivers? maids? security guards? without the big high rises, who would hire construction workers? without all these malls, who would hire shopkeepers???

For those who still want to believe that the protestors were innocent and the soldiers were evil…. The next time someone kicks you out of your home, rob it,and then burn it down… I hope you remember your own words.

And so far, we have seen that they have found their ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy’ – inside the ATM machines, 7-11, and burning people’s properties down….. right?

]]> By: dreams http://andrewmarshall.com/blog/voices-from-the-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-62 dreams Thu, 20 May 2010 20:56:11 +0000 http://andrewmarshall.com/?p=968#comment-62 its not like thailand ever really had a REAL democracy. it has always ended where 'who ever invested in BUYING the most votes wins'. so get over the democracy bullcrap. If you interview these protestors one by one i can assure you, there will be very few that can explain to you what 'democracy' actually means. its not like thailand ever really had a REAL democracy. it has always ended where ‘who ever invested in BUYING the most votes wins’. so get over the democracy bullcrap. If you interview these protestors one by one i can assure you, there will be very few that can explain to you what ‘democracy’ actually means.

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